From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:28:32 +0000 Message-ID: <87ilv59igf.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87v8zbp5l7.fsf@posteo.net> <87ee5ymhsz.fsf@posteo.net> <87r19xktnz.fsf@posteo.net> <87bl0ziujk.fsf@posteo.net> <87v8z6bj68.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2792"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 31 11:30:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n3FBG-0000V4-Bq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:30:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3FBF-0007Ra-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 05:30:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3F9K-0005bX-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 05:28:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:59665) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3F9I-0004W5-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 05:28:37 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71C4E240101 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:28:34 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1640946514; bh=KNzjHUimd9/S1Ipoj4O5cB76hlIkjpnlU37hKpKerIM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=aKVNdJygqioJmnOfehToN7SLJqoQOvB222CJrs8AXEB9uH8jEABiLL0dzAA40DaDm gG0VOeMUTLgC2RYwMbWNCprJtMz35svN0aZhmzPnDJvGZb55tqLSjNM0qhn2+YHgpF Y+cUUq6WPHp+73FnymulDxf2zdUSDX7mc9cY1NDRMN3MB7HDK2hG+r+RuH636tZHdF xuEJdw93+kQNLF2HwVo31KpAellPJPmY3rQJqRkk651vBQthuAwj3o7rJ6bcANQiVF yRm4QI1i3gIYu/vq+7j+ft8P4BU4olr+GL8UJE98hEoR6uiZUY2AnW+SLq0DPqr8XM 50mok3hQRjV6g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JQLvk06xYz6tmc; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:28:33 +0100 (CET) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 30 Dec 2021 23:26:24 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283727 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > That's fine -- but note that the packages in NonGNU ELPA should list > > > NonGNU ELPA as the repo. They shouldn't refer people to GitHub. > > > > > > In some cases, the NonGNU ELPA version might contain some of our own > > > patches. > > > That might be tricky, as a header like this would be added by the > > package developer, with the point to ease upstream contribution. > > I don't see how this issue could be solved fairly. > > I see your point, and I have an idea. > > When the package is maintained in NonGNU ELPA by the developer, > if it points to github, package-fetch could display a gnu.org explanation > of what is bad about github, then clone that repo. Explaining the problem > would cancel out the problem. > > When the version in NonGNU ELPA is not updated from an external repo > then it shouldn't point to an external repo, as that would be confusing. I just noticed this shouldn't be a problem at all, as long as the "VC" header is updated, whenever a package is forked and maintained in NonGNU ELPA. -- Philip Kaludercic