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[2001:44b8:31f2:bb00:cd2b:640d:e7c:d2cf]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b14-20020a170902650e00b001621ce92196sm12564632plk.86.2022.06.07.23.56.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Jun 2022 23:57:01 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1031.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290904 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > * Tim Cross [2022-06-06 15:57]: >> Org files *are* plain text. This is one of (perhaps the biggest) selling >> points for org mode. > > We may call it "plain text" and problem is not that we can open Org > files with any editor as plain text, but in formatting. People format > Org files in such ways that they are not readable, they may not make > spacing where it would be otherwise required, in other words, plain > text files do not look nearly as readable as for example RFC text, > like this one: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1.txt Please give me an example of org mode 'not make space where it would be otherwise required'. Can you provide a single example of org mode syntax which is not readable in any text editor. There are quite a few projects on Github/Gitlab which have readme.org files - can you point to one which cannot be read with a plain text editor?