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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291074 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: >> This is all part of the aims and process. However, the first step is to >> develop a robust elisp based parser. This helps to ensure the org syntax >> is consistent and helps identifies ambiguities which need to be fixed as >> well as provides a reference implementation which developers can use to >> develop parsers in other languages. > > Semantic/Bovine ?? Org is not context-free. Also, Org maintaners previously rejected the idea of implementing Org parser not in Elisp. Mainly because it would limit the ability to maintain and contribute to Org - one would need to learn another programming language to alter anything in Org syntax. Best, Ihor