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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294683 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Maybe the Mate developers would be interested in the idea of making > a modified version of GTK 3 to fix this. > > It might be easy to do by compiling GTK 3 with a macro definition > to define _exit to call some function we would define. GTK3 is already on the way out, as GTK4 is being ready for release. There is a good reason why MATE moved to GTK3 after it began (more or less) as Gnome2+GTK2 fork. Maintaining a library like GTK is not easy, particularly for small development teams already spread thin on their primary project (building/maintaining Desktop Environment). That is also the reason why there are very few credible options on native UI toolkit beyond GTK and Qt. Regards, Payas --