From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 16:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87ilkz2mrs.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8p1aiof.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87v8p01lbu.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7654"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Rob Browning , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 01:30:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ofrMN-0001k9-Co for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296936 Archived-At: Hello, On Tue 04 Oct 2022 at 08:31AM +08, Po Lu wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> The point with battery consumption is not about running vs. standby. >> The issue is that while users expect that running apt-get will drain the >> battery, they expect that once apt-get is done, the only battery-hungry >> processes are ones they start themselves. Laptop users typically avoid >> running apt-get without mains power plugged in. If I do an 'apt-get >> upgrade' then afterwards my CPU will be churning away compiling addon >> packages, so I can't just unplug. > > I don't know if that's true with Debian users, but nobody I know of > objects to running "dnf install" on battery. After all, installing new > packages only takes a short amount of time, certainly not enough to > significantly affect battery usage. The issue is Debian Emacs addon packages, in particular. Upgrading those kicks off a whole lot of bytecompilation. It's much heavier-weight than usual package upgrades. -- Sean Whitton