From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 20:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87ilky2khe.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87y1ty9lha.fsf@gnus.org> <87lepym6ok.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> <83edvqyr3q.fsf@gnu.org> <874jwl8e4p.fsf@gnus.org> <87pmf64beo.fsf@gnus.org> <87h70i4a46.fsf@gnus.org> <87czb648r9.fsf@gnus.org> <874jwi47l6.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgea2sgv.fsf@gnus.org> <87r0zm2qpl.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 20:31:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1og9Aa-00018P-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 20:31:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og9AZ-0008Nf-7P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og98P-0007Vy-M0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:28:45 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:50142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og98N-0001mx-Ur; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:28:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=D11+YWGHJqE99UwdjzocXaPLUg0nxQDBFc/BANABz+Y=; b=ix7JNr4muGJ60MjcJaql2LWbmo KRqJBdocR7r6c8tgQ+vukuXR1yhHsnQjgD60CfFUomZgADWIHQPYHL+Cbkfp4yJNVko4Adasp+Rws 7kdnvv//HEfs13glS32hlLOub0L8zgxcVmCdNWU2VXYwlejIMkFt668/3qx9DJbCugQA=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=downe) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1og98B-0002es-Fg; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 20:28:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Wed, 05 Oct 2022 17:58:37 +0000") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEU+EBrELUrnf6b/ //8p1TR9AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+YKBRIZJ1AP0cEAAAF8SURBVCjPNZExi9wwEIVH YdXvwuog7pPfIUPcy2Ge4dSl8IH3Z1yROoHTwm13hRakX5k3vqwb6+ON3ozeiIicv5d4mqYRPJ/C Vg7eORiEl/fKnwYDd22/okjykChfcoUex8g7Mb5+A3zySc6C/PtjwhT06CZJWx2hZwd1kNRWgHeg NPjZlICIROtedSng8aiEgqdOiVaQdxa/UILBhqRhuT6AQ+XbWgw4CrDc7yUS/prxci9vR1rPO9Db lGTQUMLc6JFpcMO2skT0GSturVeM5u6B3Fv1cxAOIPL0HJKbIUGdiJ+82ERBLROGB6ziLSD73ARx DzicipUdduCDBOmgnxL7LH8eIKPsEZ13GFjm0rxr4yAp+RkGSINU/VyMX0OWrq5QcNiQBdHVFMWV bYVcR1RE+YHMl2ZoIcD3vudWaaDj5QJpgBmk+dKboKAlrhwZnaDbDgMuYsthd6+D9Sk82bSmsIvt VPDVoFRmaQOuNKjbf1ho3S9WFhCW9g8XIZry5hMsEAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0x MC0wNVQxODoyNTozOCswMDowMPnbQDgAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMTAtMDVUMTg6 MjU6MzgrMDA6MDCIhviEAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Soft Cell's _The Art of Falling Apart_: "Loving You Hating Me" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297001 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > Exactly, adding complexity involving the execution engine here is IMO > just searching for troubles (and having -Q not usable for debugging the > execution engine itself). You missed my point. "-Q" doesn't have "one clear meaning" -- it's a mish-mash of stuff, affecting how many things in Emacs works (like Customize, X resources, packages, and so on).