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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c1d5c4bf02dd210cdb1968a4bc00c29f; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 06:45:48 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 01 Dec 2022 00:24:45 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20863 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.190.31; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic307-56.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300802 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I doubt this is literally true. Maybe you mean that if a thread runs > GTK then other threads can't simultaneously run GNUstep Yes, this is what I meant. > , for example, but I'm pretty sure other threads can still run on > their own, otherwise GTK program could not be multithreaded. GTK has a global lock around its own stuff, which GNUstep doesn't know about. The lock is taken whenever it starts waiting for events. I think the only way to really do what you want is to run both GNUstep and GTK in separate processes.