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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302840 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 18:37:35 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, mail@daniel-mendler.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:48:02 +0100 >>=20 >> >>>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 17:06:21 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: >>=20 Eli> Why does it have to be so complicated, though? If the problem is = not Eli> to call key-description in non-interactive invocations, can't we c= all Eli> key-description inside the interactive form? Or use some other tr= ick Eli> to invoke key-description only in interactive calls? >>=20 >> ? We=CA=BCre only calling key-description inside `interactive' in the >> patch. Eli> I meant _before_ the patch. The only problem with that code was t= hat Eli> it called key-description fro non-interactive invocations. Can't = we Eli> handle just that minor issue, and leave the rest intact? If not, = why Eli> not? Sure, if you tell me how to reliably determine that. `called-interactively-p' comes with all sorts of dire warnings. Robert --=20