unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unhelpful text in C-h v search-default-mode
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:21:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il4hpj74.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86frzlv6fy.fsf@mail.linkov.net

Juri Linkov wrote:

>> In a recent master branch Emacs, (not with -Q), from an info buffer, I
>> did C-h v search-default-mode.  The text printed in *Help* included this:
>>
>>     Its value is
>>     #<subr F616e6f6e796d6f75732d6c616d626461_anonymous_lambda_109>
>>     Original value was nil
>>     Local in buffer *info*<3>; global value is nil
>>
>> ..  This is quite frankly entirely unhelpful; it gives no way to find out
>> what the lambda is, in particular, no way to get to its source code.  It
>> isn't even possible to disassemble the function.
>
> Another example:
>
> 0. emacs -Q
> 1. M-x list-timers
>
>    *     0.1s     t show-paren-function
>    *     0.5s     t #<subr F616e6f6e796d6f75732d6c616d626461_anonymous_lambda_13>
>
> I wonder how users are supposed to know what function it is?
> Searching by the delay number 0.5 reveals this lambda comes
> from
>
>         (setq jit-lock-context-timer
>               (run-with-idle-timer jit-lock-context-time t
>                                    (lambda ()
>                                      (unless jit-lock--antiblink-grace-timer
>                                        (jit-lock-context-fontify)))))

One will know it by not using an anonymous function (a lambda)
but making a proper function and giving it a descriptive name,
as you see with `show-paren-function' in your own example :)

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-29  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24  9:45 Unhelpful text in C-h v search-default-mode Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-25  6:43 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-29  7:12 ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-29  7:21   ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2023-12-29  7:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29  7:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-30 17:40       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-29 10:01   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-29 10:58     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-30 17:43       ` Juri Linkov
2023-12-31  3:23         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-29 11:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-29 20:19       ` Andrea Corallo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87il4hpj74.fsf@dataswamp.org \
    --to=incal@dataswamp.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).