From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:12:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87ikwtgzv7.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <172176485988.7.10588738866494480552.387245090@slmails.com> <87le1qgl2n.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ABZoaawCx/v/bqmht9qpJB5BrU4= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 20:44:39 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sX3SA-0004tB-Di for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 20:44:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sX3RS-0005nG-CW; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sX20v-0007oW-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:12:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sX20u-000199-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:12:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sX20q-0002xo-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:12:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:43:50 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322096 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: >> FYI, we basically don't have any active "calc developers" >> to talk to. There are some people that occasionally >> contribute here and there though, see "git log lisp/calc". > > The suggestion to have Emanuel handle the Calc package in > Emacs raises several considerations about the > responsibilities and experiences needed to maintain such > a tool, as well as the broader context of contributing to > and maintaining GNU packages. ??? What? :P I'm not maintaining anything and especially not Calc which I don't even use. I was only offering my services for a math library, if that was indicative of a realization and shared view that we should have that and other such libraries instead of the model we have now. Well, I have just described it. Because then it could be an alternative, it could be the right-way-from-now-on never minding the past, it could even in time be a complete replacement. But people are opposed to this, which is okay. Unfortunately, people didn't say that but instead started to talk about _me_. Now I'm ready for that (see above, I didn't even get angry). But all in all, now I'm really not up to do anything about this since there is no agreement why it should happen in the first place. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal