From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kill ring menu Date: 06 May 2002 15:39:39 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87helleq50.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <1020022891.27106.142.camel@space-ghost> <200204290505.g3T55t006146@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020059236.31789.358.camel@space-ghost> <200204300519.g3U5Js306727@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020320725.27616.54.camel@space-ghost> <200205031825.g43IPuD00768@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020502030.5286.25.camel@space-ghost> <200205051746.g45Hk5P01808@aztec.santafe.edu> <1020662101.5288.76.camel@space-ghost> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020693986 18844 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 14:06:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174j8E-0004tp-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 16:06:26 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174jFP-0007rP-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 16:13:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174hIF-0006om-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 08:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.131]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174cAo-0003tU-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 02:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from tc-2-204.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.204] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 174cAm-0007Ec-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 15:40:36 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E19763090; Mon, 6 May 2002 15:39:39 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Colin Walters System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <1020662101.5288.76.camel@space-ghost> Original-Lines: 23 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3636 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3636 Colin Walters writes: > I assert (without any statistics) that the vast majority of users put > (global-font-lock-mode 1) in their ~/.emacs file (thereby loading > font-lock.el), and expect fontification in every mode, while the > remaining portion don't want any fontification at all. I think there needs to be a bit more evidence to justify changing the status quo. For my part, I've never seen any complaints on any of the emacs lists/newsgroups from people that dislike fontification in non-font-lock modes (this is the important case, because most package currently seem to either use font-lock, or if not, to default to always having fontification). I think it is true that using font-lock is wasteful if all it does is examine text-properties which could have just as easily been face properties. -Miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security.