From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mario Lang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: url and w3 was: Re: ffap and the menu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:29:48 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87heful63n.fsf_-_@lexx.delysid.org> References: <20020828144626.GA2640@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034260460 3605 127.0.0.1 (10 Oct 2002 14:34:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fx@gnu.org, wmperry@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17zeOG-0000vo-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:34:16 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17zfCp-0002rR-00 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:26:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zeLD-0003ke-00; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zeKA-0002bq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17zeK3-0002Gd-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:29:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.109.223.66] (helo=lexx.delysid.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17zeK2-00022a-00; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mlang by lexx.delysid.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17zeJx-00077u-00; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:29:49 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20020828144626.GA2640@gnu.org> (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:46:26 -0400") Original-Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8507 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8507 Miles Bader writes: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:29:40PM +0200, Kai Gro?johann wrote: >> Should ffap-bindings frob the menu so that File/Open File calls >> ffap? I think it should. > > `ffap' seems a bit odd in that it asks `Find file or URL'; since emacs' > handling of URLs is dodgy at best, I think this is a mistake. Well, I'm using the url library since around 3 years for various things and I was always happy with what it offered to me :). Several Emacs extensions use url and/or w3 to fetch information from the web (web based dictionary lookup tools come to mind, or things like weather-checkers). W3 displays most of the sanely-designed webpages I view daily. We all know it's not perfect, and could use alot of improvments, but it is far from unusable. In fact, I use it everyday! There was discussion about integrating url and w3 into the cvs HEAD of Emacs, and I remember the conclusion always was something like "it needs more work." Well, I as a user would say it is good for what I use it, and I think it would draw a bit more developer attention if it were in the standard codebase. Could we please figure out what exactly needs to be done before such an integration could happen? Not being very familiar with the codebase, reading the TODO files of url and w3 doesn't really help me there. -- CYa, Mario