From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A plea for dynamically loadable extension modules Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:57:11 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87he52cyns.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wue0i51a.fsf@lexx.delysid.org> <87n0evnxp8.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y8yfm2yn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1059678498 32335 80.91.224.249 (31 Jul 2003 19:08:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mario Lang , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 21:08:15 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19iIiY-00082b-00 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:04:02 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19iIl7-0000Bu-01 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:06:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iIdV-0000mL-LH for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:58:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19iIdP-0000jw-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19iIdO-0000jQ-EE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:58:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mxout.hispeed.ch ([62.2.95.247] helo=smtp.hispeed.ch) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19iIc3-0000RK-AS; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from confusibombus.gnu.org (dclient80-218-88-172.hispeed.ch [80.218.88.172]) by smtp.hispeed.ch (8.12.6/8.12.6/tornado-1.0) with ESMTP id h6VIvBPG008542; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:57:14 +0200 Original-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAYAAABXAvmHAAACkElEQVR42s1a0bLsIAgzjv// y7kPd9pVKxKVdk6fzux2C4EAwR6QZBpcQEopIf3Fq3a52Lfh0Mjjk99zcWYBwA2ihEen9jVxfAf/ u0+Y2HQwNoVw4Dx34trRV6NSjiLPmfPt77jwiBxB/3PnZ3B2AGxzHnGu0wcBwAIAyQwZGvQhiFcy YLOFQcSB/MS82n3ec37vykNqRFTX9rVWR2U5+pZNIggll0CUOQN9BDdm1LfBmcZxIEqjL6r2JU/D galaB7Zg4jlY2ulnIx9OR4iMRl38CAFyKaA8jAxE7lNn650VKMULZ/54crqn0YQCJGQliebXkFIK hwqmGm28cgsSjz/hzRCMneQEwMjVoH3gWTtMPgIslJUV5uIluvUEkyzU+gUGQO62e9NuSdZCzNOM fDPC87iCqfE9gHinsIrSL16TPBfrYIeHzqKU90a50jCh54EcrgAUFo5ibzvebgr/I66USQ0CspQp IVSoBQK3WswDDIndIraHxoglqOjM1d044PQvu1NY0EHtqQR/XwJ+PeCs0x2dSlApZVw4MPER23PD 7JekoHxrqTRod/2Gx5nhx5dfAJhqPt7tDMIZxNN/7lOIaparPn7ZQ88drlORC2eLWXowxIq4gHTh VN1BSmsHoxYAbPWDTuGQuuecS+aYQUYpfr0YqPQOuuUk5tApK077+2xfOYP+XyWEIwPcE49lvT9N y2+wU2KylGGp4yxlALcm6fSlmgk62yfSsfNunDl5d6W91MBUoZw679YAJoMMkhijuXdFOL+khaL2 s+g3zy4APQuQvSc/BNAYnkl6E8ivYtEHJXa1dihE3zgnKMdNgN8DiIwgA17NykUMvFDQ+LALvXXI BuBLAHv/DvBmc/0HzR03PqXmLcQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <87y8yfm2yn.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:59:28 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15758 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15758 "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Anyway, Emacs has had dynamically loading support for several years, > it's just that the maintainers refused to apply the patch. I suppose > that the patches for 20.x probably can be updated for 21.x. Sorry, I > don't know where they are, and unfortunately Debian has apparently > removed its package versions, too. http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs/DynamicallyExtendingEmacs says that Steve Kemp was the author of one of these patches; I think his patch for Emacs 20 was the first one. I would like to see Dave's patch in Emacs. Perhaps the simple requirement of having an Emacs-specific "initizalization" function available would be enough to deter would-be license-breakers? Alex. -- http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/alex.pl I was on holidays from 2003-07-01 to 2003-07-29 and have a lot of catching up to do.