From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: 23 Nov 2003 00:05:03 +0000 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87he0wdk5s.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <200310280126.h9S1Q9N16202@f7.net> <20031028105102.GA7330@dirtyweb.penguinpowered.com> <20031030104238.GA11503@dirtyweb.penguinpowered.com> <87vfps2x9r.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> <878ymfdsx9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <8765heixvu.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87ptfkdqss.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069546046 1214 80.91.224.253 (23 Nov 2003 00:07:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: epameinondas@gmx.de, bob@rattlesnake.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 23 01:07:22 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANhmc-0002yw-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:07:22 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANhmb-0007pb-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:07:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ANiii-0003uX-MH for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ANiib-0003u2-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:07:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ANii5-0003rx-MV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:07:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.34.135.17] (helo=tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ANii5-0003rk-61; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from host217-34-135-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.34.135.22] helo=kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by tf1.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANhkY-0001Sg-00; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:05:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk ident=nferrier) by kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANhkO-00044T-00; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:05:04 +0000 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 23 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18043 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18043 Stefan Monnier writes: > > 1. use a command line XSLT processor (such as xsltproc, part of > > GNOME's libxsl project) to turn the XML into plain text (or > > specifically marked up text). > > The original reason for discussing such things is that the Info format > has serious limitations w.r.t. additional markup. > > "Markup" in this context in the Emacs viewer means "text-properties" > or "overlays", neither of which can be provided directly from a process's > output, so it would just bring us back to square one: which text > representation top use for the markup (either HTML-like or > ANSI-escape-sequences-like, or something else). > > I'm not necessarily opposed to using an external tool, but it won't solve > the problem at hand. I thought I remembered that you could generate saved files with embedded text properties (they're lisp expressions aren't they?) Nic