From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Hanchrow Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 21.3.50 on cygwin bootstrap failed. Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 09:20:10 -0800 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87hdxwkyet.fsf@offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076607784 5640 80.91.224.253 (12 Feb 2004 17:43:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 18:42:44 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArKrL-0008TE-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:42:43 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArKrK-0004Yr-01 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:42:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArKkJ-0001Rf-IS for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:35:27 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArKgO-0000zJ-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:31:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArKVe-00072g-Sq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArKVe-00072Q-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:20:18 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArKVc-0005Ss-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:20:16 +0100 Original-Received: from offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net ([206.124.138.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu Feb 12 17:20:16 2004 Original-Received: from offby1 by offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu Feb 12 17:20:16 2004 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: offby1.atm01.sea.blarg.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DQiVYEuH/iBnSy/Uw6f/S3YjadY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19891 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19891 "Steven Wu" writes: > I took the CVS src of Emacs 21.3.50 to cygwin and did make > bootstrap. ... "Harald Maier" responds: I assume you need the mingw-make 3.79.1. I'd like to understand this better -- Harald says that one needs the MinGW version of `make' to build Emacs under Cygwin. But I am not sure that's completely correct. My understanding is that * the Emacs source tree is capable of building two *different* flavors of Emacs -- 1) the so-called "Win32" version (which does not require the Cygwin DLLs); and 2) the pure Cygwin version (which of course does require the Cygwin DLLs). * To build the Win32 version, you first cd to the `nt' directory. You then have a choice of software with which to do the build: 1) Microsoft Visual Studio 6; and 2) the MinGW versions of gcc, make, etc., *plus* `cp', `rm', and a few other Unix-style programs. In particular, using Cygwin make doesn't work, nor does using the Cygwin version of gcc. * To build the Cygwin version, you do not cd into `nt'; instead you simply do `configure && make bootstrap'. However, this always fails for me; I assume that the failures are simple mistakes in the Emacs source, which will get fixed eventually. I don't believe the failures are due to Emacs never having been ported to Cygwin; because some files refer to Cygwin (`configure.in', for example). I also assume that one does *not* use the MinGW tools when building the Cygwin version. So have I understood everything correctly? Implicit in my question is a criticism of the file nt/INSTALL; that file has cleared up my confusion, and seems out of date. I'd be delighted to update it if I only knew the facts. -- In the practice of computing, where we have so much latitude for making a mess of it, mathematical elegance is not a dispensable luxury, but a matter of life and death. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra: My Hopes of Computing Science (EWD 709) http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd07xx/EWD709.PDF