From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jay Belanger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:16:36 -0500 Message-ID: <87hd1h3ri3.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> References: <20060715221432.GA1252@muc.de> <20060716090816.GA1167@muc.de> Reply-To: belanger@truman.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153102625 30523 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 02:17:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: belanger@truman.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 04:17:03 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2IfJ-0007aS-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:16:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2IfJ-0008Ma-26 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:16:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2If6-0008Lz-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:16:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2If2-0008Gw-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2If2-0008Gj-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [24.116.0.227] (helo=S1.cableone.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2Ihb-0001xP-37 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from vh213602.truman.edu.truman.edu (unverified [24.116.73.175]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 67243637 for multiple; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:17:04 -0700 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:40:57 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NotAscii: charset=us-ascii X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 60, in=27, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.116.73.175 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57145 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: ... > I am sure there are other experienced Emacs users that dislike the > mouse, but the question is about beginners. Isn't it clear that > nearly all beginners use the mouse? Yes; but I think that expecting them to use the mouse when they first learn Emacs is effectively encouraging them to use it extensively while they continue to use Emacs. I think, to some extent, it's teaching them to use the mouse when they use Emacs. Jay