smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

[Justus-bulk]

Hi -

I'd like the envelope-sender to be taken from the From: field.

This is handy if you have several e-mail addresses, some of which are
aliases and have no associated mail server, and you want to send to
members-only mailing lists that check list membership by
envelope-sender/Return-Path.

This is possible by letting (smtpmail-mail-address (mail-fetch-field
"from")) in smtpmail-send-it, which I use for now with a hacked
version of smtpmail.el.

Of course, this should be configurable, as message.el allows it with
sendmail, see message-sendmail-envelope-from. The same mechanism
should be fairly easily implemented for smtpmail, by replacing my
quick hack by a few more lines of code, perhaps by using
mail-envelope-from in the same way as message-sendmail-envelope-from
(with a 'header value), or by using message-sendmail-envelope-from.

Would this be reasonable?

Besides, why are there two separate variables (mail-envelope-from and
message-sendmail-envelope-from) for seemingly identical purposes?

Cheers,
Justus

Re: smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

[Glenn Morris]

Justus-bulk@Piater.name wrote:

> I'd like the envelope-sender to be taken from the From: field.
[...]
> The same mechanism should be fairly easily implemented for smtpmail,
> by replacing my quick hack by a few more lines of code, perhaps by
> using mail-envelope-from in the same way as
> message-sendmail-envelope-from (with a 'header value), or by using
> message-sendmail-envelope-from.

Umm, isn't this already implemented in exactly this way in CVS?

(setq mail-specify-envelope-from t
      mail-envelope-from 'header)

Re: smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

[Justus-bulk]

Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote on Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:56:11 -0400:

> Umm, isn't this already implemented in exactly this way in CVS?

Looks like it in fact. Glad I asked. It seems that this functionality
has been pushed into sendmail.el, and that it is used by
smtpmail.el. I'll hold my breath until the next version of emacs comes
out.

Thanks,
Justus

Re: smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

[Chong Yidong]

Justus-bulk@Piater.name writes:

> I'll hold my breath until the next version of emacs comes out.

That would be fatal.

Re: smtpmail.el feature request: envelope-sender from From:

[Richard Stallman]

    I'd like the envelope-sender to be taken from the From: field.

We don't need to put options into Emacs itself for everything everyone
might want to do.  If this preference is a peculiar quirk of yours,
you can get what you want by editing the code.

Is there some reason why this is in general the right thing to do?