From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How global is a define-global-minor-mode mode? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:53:58 -0500 Message-ID: <87hcubylk9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <4581996F.3050700@student.lu.se> <87y7nxmqzh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873b5vtapb.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <86ejpf85un.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170014072 2526 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2007 19:54:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 28 20:54:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HBG6Z-00075q-QO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HBG6Z-0007gy-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HBG6O-0007gj-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HBG6N-0007gb-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:11 -0500 Original-Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu ([18.72.1.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1HBG6N-00026b-1K; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:11 -0500 Original-Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by south-station-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id l0SJs9Kv013073; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:09 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (OUTGOING-LEGACY.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.104]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id l0SJs1x6006423; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:01 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from localhost (SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FORTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU [18.95.5.144]) ) by outgoing-legacy.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id l0SJs0tf028734; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:54:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from cyd by localhost with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HBG6B-0001Wm-00; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:53:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86ejpf85un.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun\, 28 Jan 2007 17\:37\:52 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-detected-kernel: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:65571 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: >> The only way for Emacs to know which source file to :require, for a >> third-party package, is to look at the custom-set-variables >> declaration in .emacs. > > Uh, wouldn't the file to require be load-file-name at the time > define-global-minor-mode is loaded or executed via autoload? That breaks if you move a third-party package to another directory or another file name. More importantly, this kind of behavior is different from similar existing Emacs mechanisms. For instance, when you write define-minor-mode and defcustom statements, it does not automagically :require the current load-file. I really don't see why it's a problem having to separately specify the requisite load-file.