From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: :file keyword for Customize Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87hcd77u0z.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <004101c8b129$788cd490$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> <48232D95.3020304@gnu.org> <004501c8b12c$d10ce620$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> <48233394.5060205@gnu.org> <86d4nwr8vs.fsf@lifelogs.com> <000101c8b135$6d360920$0ab32382@us.oracle.com> <87zlr08t1u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210322294 10696 80.91.229.12 (9 May 2008 08:38:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:38:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 09 10:38:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JuO7J-0003BN-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 10:38:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50290 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuO6a-0004IQ-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 04:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuO6V-0004HK-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 04:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuO6T-0004Dd-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 04:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38898 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuO6T-0004DN-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 04:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]:43847) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuO6S-0008LT-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 04:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1030886fgb.30 for ; Fri, 09 May 2008 01:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=bbkG62zytMXgmY2JuEWDb0h1RwNsLzSP0UjmQCTADU8=; b=PnuXjZRYqjOXqnSnpXm7iD+ZZjXqR+W6R1BYHfGi+22TRMzIhprhT56gL0JT9pTHEFlOoyHGFj0fYIT1c/Pj0PmTWUWl9T1YiITFRjAoY+4GJfbFT2cZVLEH0DhbkJGnFiQ/bnsTrDZDLuB0GNlT9g5jT9nl9XC64Otc8p5exk0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=ZB8y/n42BgIWj03w7iacZQmgiqh3zEHJQSLexYW5QR4ujPgHcJ4iJJqAfEAckHsB2YCHoihNEvbQKD6reOr5lvYUEQ3cpvV4FLqWhevANyXDSpJs6nNph+f4pCSLxtEZFl7ExiHmxbU288TemLS3SxYoClwtZeZXuBvZPn6v204= Original-Received: by 10.86.49.3 with SMTP id w3mr5773253fgw.57.1210322238806; Fri, 09 May 2008 01:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [88.140.24.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm4059506fge.3.2008.05.09.01.37.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 May 2008 01:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E3341575B9; Fri, 9 May 2008 10:37:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87zlr08t1u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Fri, 09 May 2008 05:00:45 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96867 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Drew Adams writes: > > > This is about letting an individual option or face (or perhaps group) decide > > where it is stored (and consequently let users decide when it is loaded). The > > place to do that is in `defcustom' and `defface' (and perhaps `defgroup'). > > I think this is a YAGNI, and likely to lead to a plethora of confusing > custom files which appear at random times (ie, when you first save a > customization for a variable that targets that file). I also think so. For me, using both a ~/.emacs.el and a ~/.emacs-custom.el is precisely useful only because you have to edit the first one by hand and you can leave the second one behind the curtain, you can even forget about it. Having to forget about more than one file will make it harder to remember the location of these files for the few occasions where you'll have to edit them manually... -- Bastien