From: MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credentials
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:05:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hbyl17un.fsf@sandpframing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r5xpia2a.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:25:17 -0500")
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> I appreciate your suggestions very much. I am just asking you to
No problem. Gladly.
> present them in a way that I can understand more readily. From looking
This might be a problem.
> at the stream of Emacs bug reports for a while, most people can submit
> verbal explanations just fine, using code to support but not replace
I find that hard to believe. Does D. Armstrong have an 800#?
I'll consider leaving a message next time :P
> them. For reference, here's what M-x report-emacs-bug suggests:
This is not of itself a bug.
> Sure, let's hope whoever does will write a patch or explain it better.
Sure. why not.
> All right. Please use e-mail next time, so you can be clear in what
> you're reporting. It would have saved time, and is the standard way to
> report security issues.
See, as you say the issue at hand isn't of itself a bug.
Ted, this 'time thing' is an entity of your concern and one to which I
don't subscribe.
Another possible approach might be not trying to save time by assuming
you know the answer before you understand the question.
> Your cleanup sets auth-sources to nil. That would screw up my setup, at
No.
Your setup would've been screwed when you failed to save state or
open a second session should that have been your primary concern.
Setting auth-sources to nil was right proper and polite thing to do
given the context.
> least. It's definitely not OK to just evaluate it; there were many
As you say. Not OK.
> other issues I don't have time to list and which are not really
If you knew Time as well as I do you wouldn't talk about wasting IT.
It's HIM.
> The patch is against Emacs CVS. Let me know what you think.
Yes.
> MK> Is it reasonable for an hypothetical 'average Emacs user' to expect to
> MK> reliably debug/troubleshoot and configure an auth-source initiated
> MK> transaction config using the current 'auth regime' and expect a safe,
> MK> transparent, self cleaning, logging facility to aid in the process?
> Sure.
There you have it.
> Now, what are you suggesting should be changed or improved?
Please see my post elsewhere on this thread vis a vis imap.el
> Can you give a specific example illustrating these problems, so I can
I have.
s_P
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-12 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-11 23:44 authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credentials MON KEY
2009-06-12 18:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-06-12 21:05 ` MON KEY [this message]
2009-06-13 12:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-06-15 0:52 ` MON KEY
2009-06-15 14:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
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2009-06-12 6:28 MON KEY
2009-06-10 3:49 MON KEY
2009-06-10 21:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-06-10 20:43 ` MON KEY
2009-06-11 14:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
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