From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs is on Bazaar now. Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:31 -0500 Message-ID: <87hbr9ir78.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87d4206n80.fsf@canonical.com> <87637qhjqu.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fx6urat1.fsf@telefonica.net> <87oclig1qj.fsf@red-bean.com> <87bphir8s4.fsf@telefonica.net> <87zl52o82l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ws06plss.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6kmo0w7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87oclipeuj.fsf@telefonica.net> <87637ppyhl.fsf@red-bean.com> <83oclhejpx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262110515 29902 80.91.229.12 (29 Dec 2009 18:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 19:15:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NPgb5-0003og-HH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:15:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPgb5-0000QN-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:15:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPgZm-00079E-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPgZh-00073Z-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41619 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPgZg-00073M-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:40 -0500 Original-Received: from pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.124]:37843) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPgZc-0004eO-N3; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:36 -0500 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014103.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.103]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po29.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nBTIDWMa002893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:32 -0500 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C253EC05D; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:13:31 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83oclhejpx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:08:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118948 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > As I wrote several weeks ago (and was pounced upon), I don't see why > we need to spoon-feed experienced developers such as Handa-san. I see > no need to wait until developers ``start looking for ways to get > around'', and tell them how to do that only then. Describe the > options (not all of them, just a few useful ones) together with their > merits and demerits, and let each one make their own choices, like the > grown-ups they are. The current ``need to know basis'' attitude of > keeping information off the docs lest developers will be confused is > almost unethical, pardon my French. In my opinion, if someone (such as Handa or myself) is happy with VC and the old CVS-style workflow, we should recommand the CVS-like solution documented at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrQuickStartForEmacsDevs This is not a fancy as a true DVCS-style workflow, but as far as I can tell it has the massive advantage that VC Just Works (tm).