From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Surely 'bzr update' shouldn't be this slow? Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:57:16 +0900 Message-ID: <87hbqxjg03.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4B466E45.7060706@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262929705 24009 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2010 05:48:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 06:48:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NT7hn-0007Xj-7E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:48:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41807 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NT7hn-0000Yn-NG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:48:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NT7hg-0000Vc-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:48:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NT7hb-0000Pi-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:48:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37916 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NT7hb-0000PP-Dq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:60553) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NT7ha-0006Hl-TK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDD68216; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:47:58 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D83B1A2C00; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:57:17 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4B466E45.7060706@gmx.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 1444e28f1a3d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119647 Archived-At: grischka writes: > > No, it has to do a lot more than that.=20=20 >=20 > Has to? Why? Because the data structures are designed that way. But really, your question is either "why isn't bzr git?", in which case the answer is "because it's not." Or it's "why isn't Emacs using git?", in which case the answer is "because Emacs is a means to the end of promoting free software, and in RMS's judgment, Emacs using bzr is beneficial to that end." > Also with http: You claim it's slow because it needs to download > entire packs. That is the fact of the matter. Don't argue on emacs-devel with me about bzr implementation. Argue with the bzr devs on their lists, and you'll find me in your corner.[1] Probably =D3scar, too. Footnotes:=20 [1] Actually, not. I'm sympathetic but unwilling to tilt at that windmill.