From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:56:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87hbq4d9jf.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <27349166.post@talk.nabble.com> <83bpge50k5.fsf@gnu.org> <87vdem8gly.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87k4v1xm4l.fsf@gmail.com> <83sk9prvnd.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4v1vz5f.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264791857 6150 80.91.229.12 (29 Jan 2010 19:04:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:04:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 29 20:04:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Naw8W-0007yc-6a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:04:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59372 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Naw8V-00026m-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Naw20-00082i-FU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Naw1v-000823-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35569 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Naw1v-00081w-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:46768) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Naw1u-00023Q-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Naw1s-0003Mz-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:57:16 +0100 Original-Received: from 92.red-88-24-231.staticip.rima-tde.net ([88.24.231.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:57:16 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 92.red-88-24-231.staticip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:57:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 92.red-88-24-231.staticip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vqPhFGtESgPowZHwFQ6eH8aAznw= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120666 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: [snip] > At some point, I've considered the possibility to switch to one of > those (where the extension language is statically typed ;-), but > ... they didn't have PCL-CVS, diff-mode, Gnus, ... so it was really an > uphill battle. Maybe later. Now that you are on the mod of discussing far-fetched possibilities, think on a language that... * Statically typed ;-) No fancy type system, though. Dynamic typing can be emulated. * Can easily interface with C/C++. Registering a C function, type or variable is a one-liner. In principle, it is possible to automatize the task. * Optionally, can compile to efficient native code. * Lisp-like syntax. * Has defmacro (yay!). * Has eval. * Has instrospection facilities. Whenever I look at the Emacs C codebase, I think that a language like the described above would do wonders replacing a good chunk of it. I have such language with the corresponding compiler. It has its warts, no doubt. But, as a maintainer of the Emacs C code, how it looks the perspective of using a language like that instead of the Emacs C pseudo-dialect? Is it painful enough to maintain the C codebase to make you dream about switching to something else?