From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:51:55 +0900 Message-ID: <87hboxwdp0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4B8C42E2.3080308@siege-engine.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09227D1F24@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09225DFF6E@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <87eik2bt9m.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vg2y8pc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y6iaii3o.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87sk8ivyl3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877hptg8d4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100303091039.GA10041@tomas> <87d3zlen9e.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267636479 13803 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2010 17:14:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 03 18:14:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nms9a-0000HB-GI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:14:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58071 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nms9Z-0004iL-ST for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:14:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nmrxt-0000Uy-NW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:02:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45331 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nmrxr-0000Ud-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:02:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmrxq-0002rD-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:02:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:58005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmrxm-0002pk-Fs; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9778213; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:40:56 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B1011A3801; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:51:55 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87d3zlen9e.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121609 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > I don't see his claim of Emacs developers having to do a "pledge of > allegiance to Emacs" as polite, insightful, straight or clear. I didn't claim that you *have* to do a pledge of allegiance to contribute to Emacs. I claim that in practice it is those who have a strong loyalty to Emacs who do contribute, because the costs of contribution are too high for casual contributors. I do not claim that anything can be done about this for sure, merely that it would be worth looking for ways to reduce those costs in order to encourage a wider variety of users to contribute. > If he considers inappropriate and factually wrong rhetorics necessary to > bolster his case, Of course the rhetoric is not necessary to my case. If it were, I'd post to alt.religion.emacs instead.