From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Stefan Merten <smerten@oekonux.de>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:34 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hautw0kd.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1vcj9xhi3.fsf@gmail.com> (Leo's message of "Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:21:24 +0800")
Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
> We are already using CLOS (in the form of EIEIO), so the elisp lib cl.el
> really has been unfairly treated for such a long time because it was put
> into emacs too ahead of time and because of rms's dislike of CL (the
> language). Also putting a cl- in front of everything merely reminds
> people of Common Lisp. Can we just think of cl.el as some good ideas
> stolen from Common Lisp and forget about it hereafter.
Well cl.el certainly isn't common-lisp, that's for sure...
Unfortunately, it seems that a goal of cl.el was to sorta-kinda give an
_illusion_ of being CL. It seems a lot of the ugliness of cl.el is tied
up in that attempt, and the result is such a tangled ball of hair that
teasing out clean subsets doesn't seem trivial.
-miles
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-03 3:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-30 13:29 Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Stefan Merten
2012-04-30 13:37 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-30 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-07 20:06 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-08 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-29 20:30 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-30 2:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-05-30 19:15 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-31 18:15 ` Glenn Morris
2012-05-31 19:22 ` Leo
2012-06-02 12:16 ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-03 2:08 ` Wrong direction of C-M-a/e in rst-mode Leo
2012-06-02 10:05 ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere (was: Re: Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository) Stefan Merten
2012-06-02 19:15 ` Using cl in rst.el and elsewhere Glenn Morris
2012-06-03 3:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 3:57 ` Leo
2012-06-02 19:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 2:21 ` Leo
2012-06-03 3:12 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2012-06-03 13:41 ` Stefan Merten
2012-06-03 13:47 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-06-03 15:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-03 18:30 ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-04 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-05 19:38 ` Stefan Merten
2012-05-02 16:59 ` Re-including rst.el into Emacs repository Barry Warsaw
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