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From: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ELPA and core services
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:01:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hau02alo.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m27guw76t3.fsf_-_@gmail.com

John Wiegley writes:
>> On top of that, IMO every single core package should have a copy on GNU ELPA
>> so one can to overwrite the native GNU Emacs one with the one from GNU ELPA.
>> This would decouple all packages from the Emacs release cycle and allow bug
>> fixes to be distributed instantly.
>
> Now, this I agree with completely.  ELPA overrides is a great idea, and I
> think it could accelerate development -- as long as inter-package version
> dependencies are managed.  If the newest Gnus suddenly depends on the the
> newest something-else, that something-else should be installed/updated along
> with it automatically.

It may be a great idea, but even ignoring inter-package dependencies it
currently doesn't really work due to the way autoloads are generated and
used in both Emacs and ELPA.  Putting two different fixes for this issue
into Emacs and ELPA to me seems a bad idea, so that suggests something
more general would be needed and extending ELPA to allow for "layered"
installations by default (site-elpa, elpa-24.x, user-elpa, ...) and
delivering core packages via a "built-in" ELPA might becmome an option.

Distribution of bug fixes is actually a seperate issue that could be
solved in other ways, IMHO.


Regards,
Achim.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-25  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m2hau86tfk.fsf@vulcan.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
     [not found] ` <E1ShM8F-0006IY-L9@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <m2txy51z1k.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]     ` <E1ShiKM-0000Aa-5G@fencepost.gnu.org>
2012-06-21 21:23       ` async 1.0 John Wiegley
2012-06-22  7:00         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-06-22 10:54           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 12:39             ` Michael Albinus
2012-06-22 22:02               ` John Wiegley
2012-07-04 17:10                 ` Samuel Bronson
2012-07-05  4:09                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-05 19:58                     ` Samuel Bronson
     [not found]             ` <82d34r8ej9.fsf@gmail.com>
2012-06-22 21:50               ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23  1:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23  3:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-23 16:26                   ` Lennart Borgman
2012-06-23 21:08                   ` John Wiegley
2012-06-23 21:28                     ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-06-23 21:50                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-06-24 15:02                     ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-24 15:42                       ` Bastien
2012-06-24 21:01                       ` John Wiegley
2012-06-25 14:53                         ` Christopher Schmidt
2012-06-25 23:54                           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-24 21:12                       ` ELPA and core services John Wiegley
2012-06-24 21:40                         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-06-25  2:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-06-25  4:39                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-25  6:01                         ` Achim Gratz [this message]
2012-07-03 14:38                           ` Tom Tromey
2013-01-22 19:13                             ` Achim Gratz
2012-06-25  4:32                       ` stdlib for Emacs? [was: async 1.0] Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23  6:25                 ` async 1.0 Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-06-23 21:05                   ` John Wiegley
2012-07-01  8:16                   ` Michael Sperber
2012-06-22 11:38         ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-22 21:39           ` John Wiegley
2012-06-22 23:02             ` Richard Stallman
2012-06-23  7:46               ` zwz
2012-06-23 20:49                 ` Richard Stallman

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