From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.auctex.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/elpa r312: Update AUCTeX ELPA package to the new 11.87 release. Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87hao0mw44.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87fw3m1di7.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871uf5sgj4.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354716412 4496 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2012 14:06:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 05 15:07:02 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFcp-00080E-1F for gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:06:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48730 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFcc-0002Yl-OP for gead-auctex-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:06:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49438) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFca-0002Yf-NI for auctex-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:06:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFcY-0006SI-8l for auctex-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:06:44 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:60861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFcY-0006S7-2u; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:06:42 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDCBD23EE; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:06:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fulC1QKvI6ts; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:06:40 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tsdh@gnu.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61465D23EA; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:06:40 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org, auctex-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:26:14 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: auctex-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for AUCTeX developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: auctex-devel-bounces+gead-auctex-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.auctex.devel:2784 gmane.emacs.devel:155291 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: Hi Stefan, I've added the auctex-devel list to the Cc. >> Do you have a better idea? > > Use elpa/packages/auctex as the official upstream. > >> We are planning to migrate to some DVCS anytime soon, but since >> AUCTeX is expected to work with all Emacs versions >= 21.x plus >> XEmacs >= 21.4.x, there's no way to develop it only as a part of >> emacs in its bzr repo, although that would be very nice from a >> maintenance point of view. > > I don't see what prevents it. AFAICT it still contains all the > backward compatibility code that's in CVS and nobody asked to remove > it. If there are a couple more xemacs-specific files, I have no > objection to you adding them. I'd welcome this but David and Ralf are more qualified to judge about feasibility. Especially, there's much complexity in auctex's build system in order to compile XEmacs packages, and that's a bit more than just an auctex-compat.el. > The only remaining problem I can imagine is for those few files which > aren't FSF-copyright and hence aren't in the ELPA package, but IIUC > these are obsoletish and could just be dropped (noone complained about > them missing from the ELPA version). Yes, these 5 or 6 files are only addons for some special latex styles. They are not important for auctex, and they could be dropped or easily rewritten by someone else with CA by just looking at the corresponding latex style but not the current code. Bye, Tassilo