From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.auctex.devel Subject: Re: [AUCTeX-devel] [ELPA-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/elpa r312: Update AUCTeX ELPA package to the new 11.87 release. Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:25:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87hanwu6o0.fsf@caeruleus.net> References: <87fw3m1di7.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <871uf5sgj4.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87hao0mw44.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354965959 21388 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2012 11:25:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 11:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: auctex-devel@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 08 12:26:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIXs-0002wm-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:26:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38919 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIXf-00021S-OS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:25:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIXc-00021I-38 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIXa-0001qR-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:25:56 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:64415) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIXa-0001qL-IJ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:25:54 -0500 Original-Received: from photon (p54A500A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.165.0.167]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M8QKY-1SuZX33RMg-00vSyf; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:25:52 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org, auctex-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87hao0mw44.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:06:35 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:OmrcX50boV5GEpNcsLxiFhm9PQDz67msCXYDX/LHFBf H7VLNfC0gdvx8G1BAw9DqYWStooFf0e/q7Os2+CQgaDnoZHZqO wtiVAXl1eVyVBT1QCyS7qZAm3LkiJXJMJXqrc8trLE5ApRXoUQ 1YpkglNMfw9jYzZXuzsSf28fdZBcn5FaYp3xYVBFpuGMAdJ7mu mDPZ8u2G0SrMbmc/daoMZx0/z+1h+EAoEzymjmWmEcxDXT8tsx t6S7Chb7gUNScpCltHvSuArt2THFkwAs7zz+iUmfjn+OjkjuSO oPHTPezeLc03IM5GmZb1KNwlZ9P4CPG9Yr01VomuBACz6JeeQ= = X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155366 gmane.emacs.auctex.devel:2796 Archived-At: * Tassilo Horn (2012-12-05) writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> Use elpa/packages/auctex as the official upstream. >> >>> We are planning to migrate to some DVCS anytime soon, but since >>> AUCTeX is expected to work with all Emacs versions >= 21.x plus >>> XEmacs >= 21.4.x, there's no way to develop it only as a part of >>> emacs in its bzr repo, although that would be very nice from a >>> maintenance point of view. Since we want to make standalone releases for older Emacsen and XEmacs, we'd also have to keep the build system. >> I don't see what prevents it. AFAICT it still contains all the >> backward compatibility code that's in CVS and nobody asked to remove >> it. If there are a couple more xemacs-specific files, I have no >> objection to you adding them. > > I'd welcome this but David and Ralf are more qualified to judge about > feasibility. Especially, there's much complexity in auctex's build > system in order to compile XEmacs packages, and that's a bit more than > just an auctex-compat.el. Another reason to keep the build system is the possibility to install preview.sty and its documentation in a TeX system tree. You can do this with `preview-install-styles' as well, but only for your user, unless you have sudo or root access. So I dunno if a site-wide install of AUCTeX and preview would be easily feasible with just the Emacs package system. >> The only remaining problem I can imagine is for those few files which >> aren't FSF-copyright and hence aren't in the ELPA package, but IIUC >> these are obsoletish and could just be dropped (noone complained about >> them missing from the ELPA version). > > Yes, these 5 or 6 files are only addons for some special latex styles. > They are not important for auctex, and they could be dropped or easily > rewritten by someone else with CA by just looking at the corresponding > latex style but not the current code. If we don't get the CAs I wouldn't mind either deleting those files. -- Ralf