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From: Daimrod <daimrod@gmail.com>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: chad <yandros@MIT.EDU>,
	joakim@verona.se,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: GSoC 2013
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 14:22:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87haig5mdc.fsf@tanger.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87li7so2mc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp

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"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:

> joakim@verona.se writes:
>
>  > Some of us are making a best effort.
>
> Good for you.  But GSoC is based on orgs, not on individual mentors.
>
>  > The effort doesnt show much on this list because its not here its
>  > taking place.
>
> I don't have a problem with that.[1]  I do have a problem with a
> situation where students announce moments before the proposal deadline
> that they need mentors, and at the last minute a pseudo-org is created.
>
>  > Damirod wrote the proposals etc, and he made a good job.
>
> ?? I thought students write proposals?  Do you mean the ideas page?

I wrote both of them and I am a student.

> When I looked at the GNU Project ideas page around the end of the org
> application period, I couldn't find any details on Emacs projects (and
> the page was pretty scanty overall).

I have only added an entry for Emacs at the beginning of last week, I'm
sorry.

> Footnotes:
> [1]  I admit I'm curious where it's taking place.  Everything I've
> seen on the Google mentors' list indicates it's best practice to
> organize the "GSoC (sub)org" (including admin, mentors, and their
> backups) on the community's usual dev channels, and explicitly move
> evaluation to a private, mentors-only channel.  Opinion is divided on
> whether proposals should actually be discussed in public before the
> due date.

IMHO a project needs to be well organized when:
1. the project wants to be involved in the GSoC;
2. there is a lot of students;

From what I've seen, that's not the case for Emacs. As you've pointed
out, Emacs doesn't have an ideas page, and only two students have
expressed themselves after I've told I wanted to participate to the
GSoC. Besides, Emacs doesn't need to be a formal organization because it
is under the GNU umbrella.

-- 
Daimrod/Greg

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-06 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-03 14:30 GSoC 2013 Daimrod
2013-05-04 17:54 ` Glenn Morris
2013-05-04 18:15   ` joakim
2013-05-04 18:18     ` Glenn Morris
2013-05-05  5:01       ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-05  9:19         ` Daimrod
2013-05-05 14:08           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-05 14:34             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-05 14:38               ` Daimrod
2013-05-05 15:48                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-05 19:09                   ` chad
2013-05-06  4:52                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-06  7:58                       ` joakim
2013-05-06  9:54                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-06 12:22                           ` Daimrod [this message]
2013-05-06 12:53                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-06 13:01                               ` Bastien
2013-05-06 15:32                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-05 14:53             ` Daimrod
2013-05-04 18:23   ` Daimrod

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