From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:32:16 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87h9x1dry7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <548A6893.4020403@cs.ucla.edu> <87fvcl47h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87a92tktcd.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418383974 1767 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 11:32:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:32:54 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 12:32:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSj-0004n9-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:32:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSj-0001VJ-Fn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:32:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSc-0001Ux-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:32:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSY-0002Rv-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSX-0002Rr-VL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzOSW-0004MF-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:32:32 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f47667.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.118.103]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:32:32 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f47667.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:32:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f47667.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Y6vwfaR2Kryeg8oxkgi/E6YaFo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179889 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Ludovic Courtès writes: > >> Paul Eggert skribis: >> >>> Ludovic Courtès wrote: >>>> if replacing Texinfo and/or Info results in loss of functionality >>>> at all, that’s a showstopper. >>> >>> That's too strict. We should not insist that the new documentation >>> system must have every single feature that the old one does. It >>> should suffice if the new system is significantly better than the old >>> one overall, enough to justify the hassle of switching. >> >> Perhaps, but some features such as cross-manual references should be a >> requirement, IMO. >> >> (This discussion seems a bit surreal to me. It sounds like: “our system >> has all the features we need, but it’s ‘archaic’; so let’s drop a few >> features so we can use something ‘modern’.”) > > It has all the features that are currently used, I would say. Under torture? I mean why else would you be saying that? -- David Kastrup