From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:15:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9wwbzs7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d27oliue.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3w2fgux.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871to1f69o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87lhm9ayat.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4q8et2r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418663817 26255 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2014 17:16:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 18:16:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZGL-0000NH-D7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:16:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZGK-0000wi-TC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:16:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZEo-0007hI-GX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:15:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZEn-0002gP-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:15:14 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40269) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZEn-0002gL-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:15:13 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47444 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0ZEm-0006bG-Jt; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:15:12 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56499DF323; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:15:04 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87y4q8et2r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:11:40 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180160 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > David Kastrup writes: > > > This discussion seems a bit surreal since > > > > gnome-open info:emacs > > > > already opens a help browser on the Emacs documentation. > > OK, but "info emacs" is shorter and works on all my platforms (none of > which have gnome-open installed, all of which have info in /usr/bin, > including the BSD-based ones -- exception of course is Windows, which > isn't "my" platform and I did have to explicitly install info there). > > OTOH, neither "xdg-open info:emacs" nor "open info:emacs" do anything > useful. xdg-open does here (basically same as gnome-open). And, uh, open is something else entirely: Usage: open [OPTIONS] -- command This utility help you to start a program on a new virtual terminal (VT). Options: -c, --console=NUM use the given VT number; -e, --exec execute the command, without forking; -f, --force force opening a VT without checking; -l, --login make the command a login shell; -u, --user figure out the owner of the current VT; -s, --switch switch to the new VT; -w, --wait wait for command to complete; -v, --verbose print a message for each action; -V, --version print program version and exit; -h, --help output a brief help message. > Note that "info" doesn't need to be info in the future; it can be a > program that does the right thing with program names (ie, translating > them to URLs to hand to a browser). Sure. -- David Kastrup