From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature freezes and Emacs 25 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 09:32:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9kyqkez.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <56259FDD.8040401@dancol.org> <87zizeme8k.fsf@tromey.com> <5625B166.3080104@dancol.org> <86zizdczhp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <871tc315y3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83k2pvqg0l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446885165 20403 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2015 08:32:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 07 09:32:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvS-0001Bz-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 09:32:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvR-0002Ev-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:32:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56353) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvO-0002En-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvN-0007SY-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38655) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvN-0007SU-6x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:32:37 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52473 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZuyvM-0000FZ-KF; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 03:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 30064DF47B; Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:32:36 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:53:19 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193499 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > Since Emacs 25 is not yet released, the transfer of maintainership comes at a > slightly awkward time. I haven't fully caught my breath yet, but don't want to > impede Stefan's legacy from getting out the door. > > Let us officially freeze in one weeks, next Friday, Nov 13 at 11:59 PM > UTC, so that any ready, last minute features can get in before 25.1 is > closed. That sounds like a free-for-all. With the development cycles of Emacs, rushing in last-minute features might come at costs of half a year. I'd rather suggest putting down a "soft freeze" right now where anything significantly featuresome requires list/maintainer approval. In essence, this is vaguely the state Stefan handed over: I considered this somewhat fuzzily the prevailing mood to be picked up from discussions on the list. -- David Kastrup