From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Achim Gratz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA policy Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:22:50 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Message-ID: <87h9kvyqv9.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87ziyuaqhl.fsf@petton.fr> <87fv0labbf.fsf@web.de> <87y4eda0kl.fsf@petton.fr> <22074.42230.156669.584780@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <87ziyoxvdp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83k2psnzyh.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvuorz7n.fsf@gmail.com> <8337wfon3f.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447093439 20069 80.91.229.3 (9 Nov 2015 18:23:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:23:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 09 19:23:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6Y-0006lk-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:23:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54886 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6Y-0003pf-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6T-0003oc-US for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6R-0002li-9K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:23:41 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6R-0002lP-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 13:23:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zvr6C-0006O8-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:23:24 +0100 Original-Received: from p54b47b6e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.180.123.110]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:23:24 +0100 Original-Received: from Stromeko by p54b47b6e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2015 19:23:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b47b6e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yz3fLIzkFWc56/AAVPqO/VAWjI8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193735 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The suggestion was to move _all_ of them, except the few that are > needed for bootstrap, out of the Emacs repository. You keep arguing about things that realistically aren't even on the table yet (I don't want to prevent that discussion, mind you). I said it would be possible to do this, given some not-yet-existing infrastructure and the only reason I even mentioned it was because that's the other end of the spectrum from moving everything that looks halfway useful into core. Even if that infrastructure develops (which I have serious doubts about given how this discussion goes), nobody in their right mind would move all packages big-bang style to ELPA. There'd certainly be a transition period with some pilot packages, I'd probably pick Org, CEDET and Tramp based on the list traffic. You'd then see how that works and make some fixes that will certainly be necessary before you get to the point to move more packages over to ELPA. This being Emacs, for better or worse, I'd expect that at this point we'd be looking at _years_ before the extreme end you seem to be so worried about is even within reach. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds