From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature freezes and Emacs 25 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:01:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87h9krj27a.fsf@gmail.com> References: <5625B166.3080104@dancol.org> <86zizdczhp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <871tc315y3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83k2pvqg0l.fsf@gnu.org> <837fluqkd1.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaf1s82r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87r3jwdp3p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447297353 19524 80.91.229.3 (12 Nov 2015 03:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 03:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 12 04:02:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwi9a-0000EW-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 04:02:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44143 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwi9Z-0000hx-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:02:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60161) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwi9V-0000hm-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwi9Q-0001m9-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:02:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:33068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwi9P-0001m5-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:02:15 -0500 Original-Received: by wmec201 with SMTP id c201so12760821wme.0 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:02:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EgCFVYHbKsN9G6RDEY9nEW0I4Ff1VjCuWeBD5M6N5KU=; b=zpLfGj0cRp2dCH9EmYmvvD5zGaknwrWb76bET+l20gwNOQxdpFdSFNNm8K+eQHK7y/ 62tT4r56wGaTeVVx0QdLsnnYVV7vPv0pLgOdM2LVXQoAl/kr46dGLEvyRWABOa8RmSjA wsUKjU0OJAF0eetztgvEZbZqCit6mHS9D4I3V4HRJ/qKtlIn1JfWYGwRvWsVMw1H1zTc ztmyxzA/SzESg/POfcnhLHhznpZMGlGhtKmdgumxNukzrLkti6DqglgntCYSLMoWKU20 RtG6MYx3AFNOLRSa2m5sETu94mkM5oLtQ7M6KTOR5On1CSirmJo87Vbi84ReTzlq3bZG Wt0A== X-Received: by 10.28.211.143 with SMTP id k137mr15216170wmg.49.1447297335200; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:02:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Gandalf-Linux.gmail.com (host-92-12-87-116.as43234.net. [92.12.87.116]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z131sm219854wme.7.2015.11.11.19.02.13 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:02:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87r3jwdp3p.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2015 02:43:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194191 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > Actually I'm happy that you are pushing for the sooner release, > so now we have to concentrate on both these almost finished features. > > Also in the next release I'd like to see improvements in the Isearch prom= pt > listed in the proposal Artur published on EmacsWiki, but it seems it's > impossible to reach consensus in a reasonable time before the next release > due to a wide spectrum of opinions, so perhaps Isearch prompt changes need > to wait for 25.2. Even if we did postpone the feature-freeze, I'd probably still not apply the isearch patch until after that. Call me a buzzkill, but I actually like to know that =E2=80=9Csensitive=E2= =80=9D features are going to get a good amount of testing before being called =E2=80=9Cstable=E2=80=9D. =F0=9F=98=84 That's twice as valid when the code involves some decisions that we're going to have to live with afterwards (yes window*-start, I'm looking at you =F0=9F=98=89).