From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nicolas Petton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: First draft of the Emacs website Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2015 23:30:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9jzqi6v.fsf@petton.fr> References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> <56604A9C.7080508@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449181828 16148 80.91.229.3 (3 Dec 2015 22:30:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) To: John Yates , Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 03 23:30:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4cOD-0003Df-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 23:30:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37688 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4cOC-0004RJ-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:30:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4cO9-0004Pg-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:30:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4cO6-0002w6-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:30:09 -0500 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:51673) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4cO6-0002uG-27 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:30:06 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6048204B1 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 2015 17:30:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:30:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=/cIdp6HC8vn8zJ/0h8uWJHhqHeo=; b=KOOxx BM0nXGVfd1RqaBj/YLspFMxPOVDbFOfaRErb/t3skyrE7TxPKy2X/cUXLAJGgEBn TkQybWDfJ3fKZNe6R3B1Z8L35MNPnHxPeJ9C+vEX26vaKaJoV1SFjXyhnahnkXsY zfMI9L3F6eva/VBur9sO91Vvj7SJYeknK/AMfQ= X-Sasl-enc: pESckq6vtxG7ftdpqh/uurFmf7r0n0ZDks+iidjdxmOY 1449181804 Original-Received: from blueberry (arennes-658-1-193-202.w2-12.abo.wanadoo.fr [2.12.58.202]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 183896800A2; Thu, 3 Dec 2015 17:30:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.20.2 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.0.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195836 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain John Yates writes: > Do not pitch as virtues aspects that a newbie most likely will perceive as > a barrier to entry: > * Hence any mention of Lisp seems inappropriate. We had better hope that > Emacs' Out-Of-Box impression is good enough to motivate - in time - an > interest in Lisp, rather than presume it. Even more off-putting are the > fine points of various Lisp dialects and Lisp extensions. > * Displaying Lisp code is probably not a great "come-on". > * The parenthetical "M-x list-packages" makes sense only to someone already > familiar with Emacs. [...] Thanks John. I focused for now on re-designing the current website, without touching its contents, but I will do it in a second step and your feedback is definitely useful! Nico --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWYMJoAAoJECM1h6R8IHkQ5lIH/R6dCMiKnvTWNv4k4P4WO5Cd VnxYN3yGNRRNgJKxdn1npyH/WpTKlqytk9O6Z4S/i3G4OixFbB1MVcWfXMuz6Bda 7gWlzOmfgPrqlB43PlQONL3yNUhDjQcG/XouCjeXeZOwAlXo7cop3g5ioPLbZbr/ Sx/KBQzOmybdj14s4yPXWSdPwoeQlmme/O4XCBMVC3Occ6sZM1GbFgeywD6XUQuf TBeqe8t2GSFYARImEtxcwglbh4sDMzDhB3nampKrOT9VXkfjHE6Nh3HGo2F/LT6I DmKEtK2eUN5CX87Nf4yTxVaEe3dzb2LYXvHCqrOc8cQZZKscoZMlnfkBNdLJ2po= =QffX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--