From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>,
fgunbin@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 18:34:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9gcx6jd.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shzxdkbe.fsf@russet.org.uk>
On 2016-03-11, at 17:57, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk> wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> It is a non-trivial decision where to draw the line about what is
>> "common knowledge" and shouldn't be explained. Once again, the "tax"
>> is a single sentence, so what's the harm?
>>
>> In any case, I suggest to postpone any further arguments until someone
>> actually submits patches to make the tutorial better. The tutorial
>> should be considered as a whole, not sentence by sentence. It is
>> currently written from a certain POV that guides most of the text in a
>> consistent way. You cannot change a sentence here and there without
>> making the text inconsistent. So a change like the one that I think
>> is proposed will require quite a thorough rewrite, which makes
>> arguments about individual sentences and phrases futile.
>
>
> I am working on this. My tutorial is now 480 lines long, so it may need
> some pruning. I have buffers and files to do. My plan is to finish off
> with Emacs packages, but getting users to install a new package from
> ELPA.
>
> My thought is that, at first, this package will contain more tutorial
> information. In the first instance, it will probably just say
> "congratulations", but in later versions, it could take tutorials on
> different topics. It would also enable upgrading the tutorial
> out-of-sync with releases.
Wow, a choose-your-own-adventure tutorial! Great idea, I really like
it! I'd be inclined to contribute to it. I'll check your tutorial
soon.
> Phil
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-09 15:38 Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-09 15:50 ` jpff
2016-03-09 15:50 ` Oleh Krehel
2016-03-09 16:03 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-09 18:25 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-10 20:28 ` Alexey Veretennikov
2016-03-09 16:48 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-09 18:26 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-09 19:05 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-09 19:07 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-09 19:21 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 5:48 ` Tom
2016-03-09 16:12 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-09 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-09 17:11 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-09 20:22 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-09 21:32 ` Tim Cross
2016-03-09 21:42 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-10 0:30 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-10 5:54 ` Tom
2016-03-10 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 12:49 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-10 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 21:39 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-10 22:06 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
2016-03-12 1:53 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 6:46 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 9:58 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-10 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-10 15:07 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-10 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 15:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-10 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-10 17:47 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-11 11:21 ` Filipp Gunbin
2016-03-11 11:38 ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-11 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 16:57 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 17:34 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2016-03-11 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 22:00 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-12 7:17 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-12 23:30 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 23:26 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 1:52 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-10 23:26 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-11 2:10 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11 8:01 ` Dani Moncayo
2016-03-13 10:54 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-03-13 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-11 16:45 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 11:36 ` Tom
2016-03-13 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 18:41 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-13 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 19:14 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-13 20:27 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-03-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 14:14 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-15 15:19 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-13 19:46 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13 20:15 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-14 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 12:15 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-14 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-12 21:34 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 23:33 ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 19:14 ` Chad Brown
2016-03-12 21:05 ` Evgeny Panasyuk
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