From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Remove "Recent messages" from `M-x report-emacs-bug' Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 20:25:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87h9e7hyvw.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87k2j3jq28.fsf@gnus.org> <83y47jchvx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462818373 8568 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2016 18:26:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 18:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 09 20:26:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsZ-0000DF-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 20:26:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42853 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsY-0003EP-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 14:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsL-0003Ah-Bz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 14:25:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsG-0005Et-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 14:25:48 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsG-0005ET-LQ; Mon, 09 May 2016 14:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1azpsC-0007tM-Js; Mon, 09 May 2016 20:25:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83y47jchvx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 09 May 2016 19:31:46 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203735 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > In case it wasn't clear, I object strenuously to unconditional removal > of that info as the default behavior. Your opinion here is, of course, very important -- you are the one that handles most of the bug reports. But I'm wondering why our experiences here are so different. I don't think I've ever found those messages important for handling a bug report. I mean, ever. Do you often find that those messages are important for tracking down bugs? The few times I've even glanced at them, they've have mostly been about something completely irrelevant -- what the user had been doing while trying to figure out how to file the bug report, and not about what had happened when the bug happened. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no