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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: van@scratch.space, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:37:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7wmi7pj.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1icix1-0006kR-Dt@fencepost.gnu.org>


On 2019-12-05, at 05:41, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> Turning to the broader ethical issue, I think that _all_ textbooks,
> indeed all educational resources, ought to be free -- because they
> exist to be _used_ for a practical job: f teaching or learning a
> subject.

Having thought about it, I have to say that I am not at all convinced.
Quite the contrary - I would be suspicious about free educational
resources.

Why is that so?  Because if someone provides me with information (be it
of educational nature or otherwise), and I do not pay for it, this means
that it is quite probable that someone else paid for it.  And the goals
of the "someone else" may be very different from my ones.

That might not matter that much in case of a calculus textbook, or Emacs
manual.  But I would *never* give my child a "free history textbook"
(for example) unless I made really sure that the author did not try to
push some nasty agenda with it.  (And I have seen such textbooks myself
- see below.)

Another reason for my suspicions may be the fact that I have lived in
a communist country for some part of my life.  Most people in the US do
not have such experience, and that is probably the reason they allow the
poison of communist ideology to invade their thinking.  (In fact, from
what I read, the US have almost become a communist country nowadays.
I would not want to live there at all!  Free speech in the US is
definitely a thing of past, and I will not be surprised if the US
ditches capitalism and whatever is left of free markets within a decade.
Not that I think free market is a silver bullet, but in many cases it
seems a good economic solution.)

And the idea of free educational resources does smell of communism.
A lot.

Yet another problem with "free educational resources" is: who would pay
for them?  And if nobody, who would create them?  This is of course not
a moral issue, but a pragmatic one - but an issue it is.

Of course, I am perhaps mixing the two meanings of the word "free".  But
this does not matter that much, because if something is "free as in free
beer", that means that someone does not get paid for it, and if
something digital is "free as in freedom" (e.g., free to copy), that
usually means that someone won't get paid for it as much as if it were
"non-free".

Best,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29  9:05 Some ideas with Emacs Anonymous
2019-11-29 11:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-11-29 11:44   ` =?gb18030?B?QW5vbnltb3Vz?=
2019-11-30  5:54     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-30  5:51   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  5:57   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01 10:56     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 11:08       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 13:40         ` VanL
2019-12-01 14:07           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02  4:52             ` VanL
2019-12-02  6:12               ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  5:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 15:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:21                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 17:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:59                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 19:51                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 19:32                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 19:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 23:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  3:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 18:29                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  8:39                     ` VanL
2019-12-03 23:12                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-06  6:51                       ` VanL
2019-12-06 20:13                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 23:58                           ` VanL
2019-12-02  5:41           ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-02 12:53             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 18:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 20:57                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 22:13                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 22:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 23:04                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  0:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 23:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  8:37                           ` VanL
2019-12-03 10:14                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 11:14                               ` VanL
2019-12-05  4:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-05  7:30                                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-06  4:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  2:21                                     ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-08  5:06                                     ` Librepay Richard Stallman
2019-12-08 12:10                                       ` Librepay VanL
2019-12-03  5:03                         ` Some ideas with Emacs Richard Stallman
2019-12-03  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  0:37                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 19:37                     ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2020-06-03  4:25                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 11:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 11:59   ` Anonymous
2019-11-29 12:31   ` Emacs: the Editor for the Next Forty Years (was Re: Some ideas with Emacs) Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-29 13:22   ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 13:34     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 13:56       ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-11-29 14:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 14:26         ` Anonymous
2019-11-30  3:51         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01  3:14         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 18:58         ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:13           ` Adding examples in the doc (was: Some ideas with Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 19:30             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-29 20:03             ` Adding examples in the doc Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:32           ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:09             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:25                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  7:35                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-01 10:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01  6:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 21:42           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-11-30  0:12             ` João Távora
2019-12-01  6:48               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  0:44             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-30  7:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:51               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 18:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 19:44               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 20:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 21:35                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  3:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  4:17                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  4:48                         ` Yuan Fu
2019-12-02  4:53                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02 15:57                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 22:20                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:46             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  3:21           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:04         ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01  6:15           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:05     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 15:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:04     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-30 11:21   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  2:41     ` VanL
2019-12-01 18:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 18:36       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03  6:07 ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-06 18:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 19:18     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 20:14       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 21:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-06 21:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-07  2:13     ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-07  3:14       ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 20:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-11  4:21         ` VanL

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