From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 03:12:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87h7sa72s8.fsf@gnus.jao.io> References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87tuwabm5a.fsf@gnus.org> <87pn6y5yfz.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35507"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 04:13:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kF6es-00099d-Qn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 04:13:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54208 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kF6er-000730-RX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 22:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kF6eQ-0006cQ-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 22:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kF6eQ-0000r9-9K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 22:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: from cpc103058-sgyl39-2-0-cust254.18-2.cable.virginm.net ([94.173.216.255]:47246 helo=osgiliath.local) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kF6eQ-0005iE-0H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 22:12:58 -0400 Original-Received: by osgiliath.local (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADA03402A0; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 03:12:55 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <87pn6y5yfz.fsf@gmail.com> (Caio Henrique's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 19:32:00 -0300") X-Attribution: jao X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-URL: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254604 Archived-At: On Sun, Sep 06 2020, Caio Henrique wrote: > I wouldn't mind radical new defaults if I could easily disable them with > some compilation flag like --with-old-defaults, or just adding a line like > (setq use-new-radical-defaults nil) to my early-init.el. FWIW, as someone who has been using emacs for more than 20 years and spends 90% of his computer time in emacs, i wouldn't mind either. IMHO, the odds that an experienced user of emacs would ditch it just because of a (for her, easily overriden) default change are virtually nil; with a new user, the situation is almost the opposite. Just my old-timer 2 cents, jao -- More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them - Harlod J. Smith