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[78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e15sm2117187wrx.86.2020.12.16.01.07.27 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 16 Dec 2020 01:07:27 -0800 (PST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <99a1a685-3c7e-4b13-ab25-a97ecaede862@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:40:41 -0800 (PST)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::430; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x430.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260970 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> The advantage of the menu-bar is that we can have the associated >> keybindings displayed. And that would be extremely useful for users. >> They can use the menu to find the associated key binding. > > Is there something stopping Emacs from including > a key binding in the mouseover help text (tooltip > or echo area, depending on `tooltip-mode')? > > That doesn't happen now, but it could, couldn't it? In the toolbar? I see keybindings in mouseover text here in both emacs-27 and master, on both GNU/Linux and macOS. Robert