From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: extraclean and admin/grammars [was Re: Git master head build failure?] Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2021 15:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7knlcl6.fsf@gnus.org> References: <875z16en2o.fsf@gmail.com> <83mtuih3en.fsf@gnu.org> <835z16gnkj.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2e2f22w.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgyikmui.fsf@gnus.org> <83v995g8lo.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1jsls85.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6qgg56n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16545"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, theophilusx@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 03 15:31:47 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lSgNP-0004Bp-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 15:31:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSgNO-0006Aa-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 09:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSgMf-0005ib-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 09:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:55376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lSgMd-0000cy-75; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 09:31:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kc1f1+7X5V72e2VosdiJHRYUEJa1Rbc90nnP9uUCmqw=; b=aKePL+QXp2pI8/ePViTKpl4iy7 qFMav47SFuXQsRjs4a542nWtlNFZwHYlZEuvTDSTUK56VJhcRprU0n3o8zvFFLeNKYBh6R+KIttvV fdPmyI1f5HKibER7CGzqLtZXwvmEg8C1SZQgq1c7Vv8XyLS9Nq50tnw+6i6J1dwXdzf4=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lSgMQ-0001kc-BZ; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 15:30:51 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX6xRHUSiHHDCjI CltsChv///8KA0wuAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UEAw0cEJ5w99UAAAGVSURBVDjLbZTb ecMgDIXBXgDBAra0QEATtJ/3n6lH3N2WPETht25Hcpz753iKvP9c98S8XfvQTVrAu2DA16frfQfn h/wVmZyPzxfR8zzfHWg47igxRO0OI5TenkWZJf8GHA4VArDcb5CKwCOEF3BIrIilhe53KFiiBjgH tN2B3FQ4nJqTFiTZAHOBkfJZzGcCi1PEuvSqKPmeHioI3YrDKQskFNSKMLB5HKqfIQ1ytGN6JtUw GtVSpHRgcccoMnoxzWqoE+5zRoJWariavPRQ3kDP0iMPDxN/ASS8OjgQSCfgWwfA9UUDeC8TsGqe wBq+RwrUHvfkvV4PNZUXKNqzR5vWVq5V0gepex+xamqpbcCrXHMYausOImattjsYJNZkJvcSDODD pmygAVJGVfVU0OZngDBauzEfnAUcaQVQqe7V8iBN7eHLJKAxc6xqTlIB3o43oJikAdS8g2h7Yhtx APgXQJXFAO8gRlOITOH4AhZUsGXpN2jfAPkNej/MKVfbjwZ5gqsC9wdIqHYYAH8PzbrcC/wAwdNz p6z9/70AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDQtMDNUMTM6Mjg6MTYrMDA6MDAfEPoLAAAA JXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA0LTAzVDEzOjI4OjE2KzAwOjAwbk1CtwAAAABJRU5ErkJg gg== X-Now-Playing: Breathless's _Over and Over_: "Moment by Moment (version)" In-Reply-To: <83a6qgg56n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 02 Apr 2021 16:57:20 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267346 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Bootstrapping Emacs means building a working Emacs executable when we > either have no Emacs executable at all or that executable isn't > working or is broken for some reason. > > IOW, bootstrapping Emacs doesn't _have_ to delete all generated files, > though it _might_ delete those which are in the way of building a > working Emacs. I still don't understand what mean here, since it's been demonstrated several times that (in certain circumstances) people have to say "make extraclean" to build a working Emacs executable. So "make bootstrap" doesn't do what it says on the tin, and the suggestion is to make it do so. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no