From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Buffer-local process environments Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 15:18:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7f99073.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87eeets6jf.fsf@gmail.com> <8735v99f4i.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2d1xada.fsf@gmx.de> <877dkkcjrj.fsf@gmail.com> <87tunoyzzd.fsf@gmx.de> <87eeerby1n.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6pfepo6.fsf@gmx.de> <874kflmzn3.fsf@gmail.com> <87wns9glm1.fsf@gmx.de> <87y2co4hto.fsf@gmail.com> <87v97reubc.fsf@gmx.de> <87lf4lkb1w.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87lf4l91nb.fsf@gmx.de> <87czpxk9mi.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Augusto Stoffel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 15:19:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJyFH-0004pG-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 15:19:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJyFG-0000XD-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJyEi-0008H4-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:60683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJyEh-00083Y-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 09:19:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1630156738; bh=lYVTIvC59EH1+feKgvSh1a99qiIMYZGX0o0mAeezwMg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Sgqq12njEhjvqpSnSSNoRKl/5MhN9qm5wodMtspAhLA61wQ52CqjHl+Oxb9mmkJmf pQRgGMoPKZwElv5aVIiyxC3nCc/u5A+w2T27PcB2GjC5HYc0qucidZ19Cda3czu+a8 lUq7jFUK39bsp0sfF7kkRVrjygmB2BM9icjI2UWw= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([217.70.140.149]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MfHAH-1mvDbN0IHr-00gpHr; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 15:18:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87czpxk9mi.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Sat, 28 Aug 2021 14:59:49 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:iaI2DmqHO8Yx4uOf3B6vhECS6esC9Tll/yq6lVYx5On3Xsmiq49 fi6EZddZCfkLGnIxmx+2qF3/0mFWfcRyKoqdnIJu7FhjSg3wgIHozw3CG7JFPWk5G96hNoy 66KEjrRLcQx6i2gt08oinTPp5xdIBI5Xk2UwRMT1mEEFx/RnHU1pxwrhWDPrpoXcUoe02lJ lYrGOKgB6M6mjNOzOZrkg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:2MpLXecoXMw=:NSuNtwKguDpQRLgufXUBFj lPBErV2ErLvRuN8VIIMG1TWqXipVunuidbfVdToUecP0H1BYMLE8rmcrPhFL/Xxe7vm0EToSg wK1+qylZ2YFFghUpPstJcmmu92tYqbsn15l4BqC+3OYPup+xKioYYxL8AD9djtGcczH7sc4K3 rYx6PIkdzbZte4EUZiNvGkjlxRF6+feD9EGiMeN7cVmGIQk3ztaEZqm4QIXjRWQVWsADrLFmX Kv13T8W/po2GTdkX6y7tU3vf5RBHAtPV1wb6wcGhltU1kjdOzT9YlqRAOUq1wDi8c2IX1AxZy zWfycykktxiiIQKMMtIArmVZpuXXfpkA0kmvVckhcMBWHXzsuI4mwMag6hcbra/Xj0hvWgKyj lRTmsM0jaQ8Y+DdOFPdhFiJ16s4ugEqUS5ZhYIPJoHNuUhqKghVGZlgJkwJGrqsbyOGbJLX/V FSpVebVXawotNugvl2RHIxvK5wSnfeb5se0rgZAIVzzJYro9stxLDkQpbbEc/NloTbMqI9OG6 xb6j79QMDVQUeC5loormiuOLt+611jvVtTyScGnYPn1A3carazE+8jKqWFN9FG96wBYMoEkOO 0waaK3oPQZ1YOsjhCAOTPzqlDlFxIoT0zNtQqhEIO8Jg7S1kCoGV5Ed1O1gLWGHRuHPbHq2as pDzCKPXNyz1jBZ/Y0ikmBi8H6ahPpgf3A7gIigdzaJ1mXCvKTWCKwsG8jN/S0KzdHxVxfo3JP 00GiqmvFeGndjiugH4gEnDAvCJ5LK8QEQBTVS6iqH5H2WBOuP/Vf63HJ6sZ17A+Wcw5F3rQb Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273295 Archived-At: Augusto Stoffel writes: >> W/o further reading, this cannot be right. Elements of >> `process-environment' have always the syntax "VAR=VALUE". You add only a >> VALUE (`exec-path') in `bufferenv'. I understand your intention, using >> `bufferenv' as transportation vehicle, but I believe this is >> mis-designed, and good for trouble. If not now, then later. > > This is a temporary, lexical variable that is inaccessible to the user > directly. It's "destructured" again in the next hunk of the patch. I've seen this. But we shall avoid this dirty kind of programming, even if it is internal only. Best regards, Michael.