From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:50:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7f0u94w.fsf@gnus.org> References: <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> <8735qmjklm.fsf@localhost> <87ilzi86h7.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvh9anq.fsf@posteo.net> <83o899yjh2.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jxyhbn.fsf@gnu.org> <05217332-4d76-83a6-06a6-3ddae942dd12@yandex.ru> <83czppygiv.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgst7njp.fsf@posteo.net> <87pmtpvgva.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf4dvgm0.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29562"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philip Kaludercic , danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 04 08:51:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMPWs-0007TJ-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:51:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMPWr-0004D4-1o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 02:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMPVp-0003Rz-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 02:50:51 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:55890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mMPVm-00054E-EB; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 02:50:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AEkC39mW4G814L+JpBQQFYk/ajacqgNWLGJXqN9h1Sk=; b=X1QIxq738wNJNN6V3K0+RpnH30 59IfQ6gauedUfh5TkROZEhZjFqFJmQsWHWeHV2wv+s3m10CQmnM/IXf/P4UXjVgvrEb/LM/qf8jzK UNMqaeIY7lF4MPAPgnmxsthCBJ21fQ/kTO1OIE5yM3MKwwme8PUjwYTNxwOV2cD1LEIo=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMPVg-0006N0-JY; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 08:50:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 3 Sep 2021 18:22:20 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273841 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > That's why "nobody is unhappy" is a bad criterion for making changes. Indeed. For instance, there are still people livid about making line-move-visual the default, over a decade afterwards, but that was the right decision, anyway. On the other hand, it is pretty annoying to have things change under your feet, so it's a balancing act. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no