From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: Forwards-Compatibility Library for Emacs Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:59:29 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7eec6um.fsf@gnus.org> References: <877dfavmzw.fsf@posteo.net> <83v92uxfto.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7572"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9y?= =?utf-8?B?YQ==?= To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 17:00:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mShGU-0001fd-Bb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:00:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mShGS-0003mW-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53966) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mShFL-00035r-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 10:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:34682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mShFJ-00066C-Lp; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 10:59:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lDH90Yg9RZKYc+007plKTldxpOq69xpfkNK02DIKRuw=; b=i+cDbOJ/5hGdZM3dXzCyPoHZlQ UYUocs2+l5yVwniPxlHJPG631mtJxseaOVgccl+Xl+WVe+3U6kUg5g2CuolF8eKZSh9sep9Ys43qB 8Xn+5YuzhbMoqLfKTL9KP8QHDHUy7Wezej2Je1dzQXOyVrwfcqHXP6ouhMEmcJ6lmQXQ=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mShF4-0006yT-JW; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:59:33 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Mia Doi Todd's _Ten Views of Music Life_: "My Fisherman =?utf-8?Q?=28Bel=C3=BA?= Remix)" In-Reply-To: <83v92uxfto.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:40:03 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275246 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Can symbol-renaming help here, perhaps? I believe Jo=C3=A3o is trying to > get it ready in time for Emacs 28. I'm not sure how symbol-renaming would help here? The issue is providing an "official" forwards-compatibility library that would define all the useful library functions/macros that are added to Emacs so that ELPA packages can use these new functions/macros immediately. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no