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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278031 Archived-At: RS> We must not encourage people to use nonfree programs. "We begrudgingly make emacs work under closed-source platforms like Windows, OSX, but they are unjust." I suppose this is no more or less defensible than all of U.S. foreign policy, of which I've been a longtime beneficiary merely by being a citizen. The proceeds from nonfree software have also sheltered and clothed me, and provided the leisure time required to write free software. So I guess I'm rotten to the core. There's a cult of personality at play here that the ten or so core developers feel obliged to respect. In that sense, your continued exhortations, impassioned but illogical, are working spectacularly well.