The absolute positions of the fields are extremely different from mode to mode -- in the first one, the name takes half the space, and in the other one, everything starts a lot nearer to the left. So I don't see how we could practically define a fixed-width field mode line: The mode line formats are pretty different between modes and users and how you combine different things. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no