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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284232 Archived-At: >>>>> Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > Say we go a conservative approach and we only load custom-file > automatically if set by the user. We wait to see if people like > it and then include a message when custom-file was already loaded > by the user. And finally we attempt the 'revolution' setting a > default value for custom-file and requiring users to set it to nil > if they want the original emacs behaviour. For me, I'd prefer the other way round, i.e. the default is nil.