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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289930 Archived-At: Jonas Bernoulli writes: >> ** Do you have any general feedback on the survey? > > That's it? That wasn't many questions. > > They would need some work, but here are some I would be interested in: > > - How do you learn about new packages? > - Do you try out new interesting packages immediately, or wait for them > to mature? > - Do you sometimes discover old package and use them instead of newer > alternatives? > - Do you research established alternatives when a new shiny package > comes along? > - Do you install the packages that you maintain yourself using package.el? > (As opposed to manually adding the appropriate directory to the load-path.) > - Do you publish your own packages on an *ELPA as soon as they are > usable, or do let them mature a bit first? (Why the former?) > - How often do you contribute new features to the packages you use? > - How often do you contribute bugfixes to the packages you use? > - How often do you ask the maintainers of the packages you use for help? > - Where do you request help with packages that are part of GNU Emacs? > - Where do you request help with packages that are not part of GNU Emacs? > - If you use a starter-kit, who do you usually ask for help first; the > starter-kit maintainers, the package maintainers, the wider community? > - What do you do if your feature request or contribution is rejected? > - What documentation do you wish package authors would more often > provide? [] Comparison with alternatives [] Tutorials [] Design > rational [] Info manual [] Screenshots [] Videos [] Concise > introduction [] ... [ ] . Will is be possible to filter out questions, depending on previous answers? I don't think the average user is interested in questions about how they maintain Elisp code.