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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292424 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 19:56:51 +0800, Po Lu said: Po> Robert Pluim writes: >> "Use the terminal" sounds a little unnatural and forced. Po> I think that's already used in some places. >> How about punting completely, and saying: >> >> OBJECT nil means use the terminal of the currently selected frame. Po> Sure. Or maybe "If OBJECT is nil, use the terminal..." I stole^wwas inspired by the wording from `terminal-name'. Robert --