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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293772 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 21 Aug 2022 at 02:27PM -05, Rob Browning wrote: > For what it's worth, I don't personally have any strong, principled > stand regarding what the default toolkit should be right now (via "apt > install emacs"). If I recall correctly, I think I may have switched it > to gtk years back when it looked like that was the upstream preference. > > Personally, I haven't installed emacs-gtk much in years. I switched to > emacs-lucid nearly exclusively a good while back because I hit the well > known X forwarding bugs back when that was important to me. (I also > turn off menu/tool/scroll bars, so I don't see a lot of the > toolkit-specific bits.) So, in your view it would be fine if we didn't use -gtk by default even though GNOME is Debian's default desktop? -- Sean Whitton